Fajar at 18 Degrees

Scholarly Consensus: Faj’r begins at 18 degrees

(Qari) Muhammad Shoyaib Nurgat

Question: Please explain as to what time Fajar begins in United Britain? And what should we do during the time of perpetual twilight?

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh

We would like to begin by extending our gratitude to you for asking this question. May Allah (SWT) give you the best of rewards (Ameen).

The last major agreement of Scholars in United Kingdom on this subject was in 1983. This was conducted on the 6th Sha’ban 1403AH corresponding to the 29th of May 1983 on Sunday at 10 AM at Bradford. This meeting was attended by approximately 70 Scholars and more than 100 responsible members of various Mosques. The conclusion reached was that Faj’r Salah should be calculated at 18 degrees during normal days. During the days of perpetual twilight, although there are multiple methods advised in Islamic law, Aqrabul-Ayyam was recommended as the preferred option. Mufti Shabbir Ahmed (DB) and Maulana Ahmed Sarkar (DB) were present at the meeting (amongst others). I have confirmed the conclusions with them in addition to having seen the original handwritten agreement. We will follow the agreement of the Scholars, until a similar conference is held and the scholars revise their opinion. Nationally and Internationally, there are many other Scholars who endorse this view.

Many Scholars have also mentioned the 1/7th method but this is not viable for British Muslims and the issue is discussed in detail by Mufti Shabbir Ahmed (DB). In addition, I also recommend reading about the issue of following fasting times of Saudi Arabia during long daytime hours in Britain since it has relevance to the topic.

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Darul-uloom Karachi and 18 degrees

A.A.W.W., Hazrat Mufti Taqi Usmani Saheb, hope Ramadhan is going well, this is Hanif Dudhwala from Blackburn UK (your co traveller to Albania in 2006), sorry to disturb your busy schedule in Ramadhan but I thought this was a very important issue especially here in the UK at this time and wanted to make sure that your respectable name is not used for incorrect information, it is being claimed that Darul Uloom Karachi ends their suhoor on 18 degrees and prays their Fajar on 15 degrees, this claim is being attributed to yourself and widely circulated as can be seen on the website link below, I will really be very grateful if I could get a clarification from yourself which I can ( if you say) circulate on your behalf, jzk for your precious time and humble request for duas,

W.S. Hanif Dudhwala – Blackburn UK

Dear Molana Hanif Sahab Assalamu alaikum

Thanks very much for your email.

There are some fundamental misunderstandings that have been narrated in the referenced article. The viewpoint of the scholars of Darul Uloom Karachi since the time of my honourable father, Hazrat Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafee’ Sahab ﻰﻟﺎﻌﺗ ﷲ ﮫﻣﺣر, has been that Subh Saadiq commences when the sun reaches 18 degrees below the horizon, implying that Sehri ends at this time and it is totally impermissible to eat even a morsel after this time for one who is fasting. Similarly, it also implies that the time of Fajr Salah commences at this time, meaning that any person who performs his Fajr Salah at this time will not be required to repeat his Salah as it was performed validly in its time.

Keeping this in mind, the practice in Ramadhan in Darul Uloom Karachi is that Suhoor ends at 18 degrees whilst the Adhan of Fajr is called out at after the sun reaches 15 degrees below the horizon. This is done on the basis of طﺎﯾﺗﺣا so as to enable practice on both the views of 18 and 15 degrees. This is in the same context as appears in numerous occasions in the classical texts of Fiqh, wherein a jurist regards practicing on a view which takes into consideration and reconciles between differing views, as better (and not as necessary) to practice upon even though it may be permissible according to that jurist to practice on the differing opinion. I hope this has clarified the misunderstanding.


Muhammad Taqi Usmani

Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) and the opinion about 15 degrees

24th of May 2018

When does Subh-Sadiq occur, is it at 18 degrees or 15 degrees? There is some difference between astronomical experts. In our country (i.e. Pakistan) Salah timetables are generally created at 18 degrees and depending on the season the difference between Subh-Sadiq being at 18 degrees vs 15 degrees is roughly between 10-20 minutes.

We get queries and personal letters from around the country where certain individuals emphatically and forcefully insist on following 15 degrees due to trust in the research and opinion of Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) while others insist on 18 degrees and don’t wish to wait for the sun to reach 15 degrees. Ramadhan is the month of devotion (in worship) and this argument sullies the atmosphere and causes friction.

The humble servant advises all to be balanced (in their opinion) and wishes to point out a few things as follows:

There is no doubt that Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) remained convinced on Subh-Sadiq being at 15 degrees but it is also true that he never insisted on getting his Salah timetables published and (generally) circulated. Dharb-e-Mumin and Daily Islam were popular publications (in his lifetime) but he (RA) never used them to promote 15 degree timetables, in fact he expressly forbade it. Hazrat (RA) was of the opinion that propagation of differences of opinion of people of knowledge may cause confusion amongst masses and erode their trust in scholars. When the difference of opinion about 15 degrees became widespread, Hazrat (RA) famously made an announcement:

If in a Mosque even a single Musalli has an objection to my timetable (of 15 degrees) it should be removed. Our job is to explain a Mas’ala and not to enforce it!

Therefore instead of propagating 15 degree timetables, laymen and scholars alike should be educated to have Suhoor (i.e. stop eating) at the old timetables of 18 degrees but call the Adhan and pray at 15 degrees so both opinions can be practised. It has been the practise of Darul-uloom Karachi that fast begins at 18 degrees but the Adhan of Fajar is called at 15 degrees. This has been responded by Mufti Taqi Usmani (DB) in an email responding to a query from Blackburn (UK) dated 21st of August 2011.

Islamic Ruling on using 1/7th as a rule for determining Subh Sadiq?

Mufti Shabbir Ahmed (DB)

In response to a question, Darul-uloom Karachi responded with an affirmation from Shaykh (Mufti) Mahmood Ashraf (HA) as follows:

It is permissible to act upon any of these 3 methods. The 1/7th method (outside of these 3 options) which is suggested by some people is not correct for geographies with unequal day/night duration. This method of dividing the night into 7 (equal) parts was suggested by Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) for parts of India which are temperate (and with roughly equal daylight and night hours). However, there is no scope for acting on this (1/7th method) in countries (with unequal daylight and night lengths) therefore this method should not be utilised.

Shaykh (Mufti) Muhammad Shafi Usmani (HA) responds to a query:

The stipulation of 90 minutes (before sunrise) for Subh Sadiq (true dawn) as a principle for all seasons and all places is not a universally applicable principle, it is for temperate (moderate) areas i.e. locations where daylight and night and almost equal.

He (RA) further states:

Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) has also written about the issue in last booklet and clarified the matter and this booklet is entitled “As-Sa’aat Lit-Ta’aat”.

He (RA) further states:

In Imdadul-Fatawa where Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) has conclusively declared Subh Sadiq (true dawn) to be 1/7th of the night than this is not a universally (conclusive) statement but more of an estimated (administrative) statement (see Fatawa Darul-uloom Deoband Vol 2/page 303 for further details).

Our respected and honourable father Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Ahmed (HA) states:

In fact this 1/7th isn’t an established fact but an estimation for temperate (moderate) areas.

Then Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Ahmed (HA) elaborated on the issue in detail and appended the fatwa of Shaykh (Mufti) Muhammad Shafi Usmani (HA) in its entirety to his statement. Similarly, he also appended one of the letters of Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi (RA) (page 121) in its entirety to his response. Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi (RA) states:

This 1/7th rule for Subh Sadiq (true dawn) is not correct; it is an estimation and not a certainty. You can climb on a high building and observe the emergence of Subh Sadiq (true dawn) during night hours of 14 hours and it doesn’t occur 2 hours before sunrise. This is an estimation of our country and I don’t know there circumstances (of your country) but there is a difference in latitude between our country and there.

Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Ahmed (HA) continues to write:

It becomes evident from the statements of these Scholars (of Fiqh) that where they have mentioned this 1/7th rule it is meant as an estimation and not a conclusive (all applicable) rule. According to exclusively conclusive rules of research this rule isn’t even true as we have learnt from the statements of Shaykh (Mufti) Muhammad Shafi Usmani (HA) and Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi (RA).

Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Ahmed (HA) adds:

This 1/7th rule is not an established (and pervasive) principle and anyone can confirm with observations. In non-temperate countries where the lengths of daylight and night (greatly vary throughout the year) this rule most certainly doesn’t hold true. In United Kingdom, we know that that the minimum time difference between sunrise and Subh Sadiq (true dawn) is around 1 hour and 50 minutes and there is never a time difference less than that in Summer or Winter. In fact, during Summer approximately the (second half) of the night becomes Subh Sadiq (true dawn). In order for us apply this 1/7th rule we have first to deduce (conclusively) that the time for Faj’r i.e. Subh Sadiq (true dawn) doesn’t actually occur (earlier statements actually prove that it does occur). Since the time for Faj’r i.e. Subh Sadiq (true dawn) occurs there is no room for estimations and deductions. If it can be conclusively proven that Faj’r i.e. Subh Sadiq (true dawn) doesn’t occur then we can make deductions based on equating (these countries) with other countries because the Scholars of Fiqh have written in the absence of true dawn Aqrabul-Bilad (nearest countries) should be considered. (Al-Falaq Idha Lam Yaghib Ash-Shafaq, page 11, unpublished book from 1982)

Similarly the Faqih of the era Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) writes:

Some Scholars have given an estimated time difference between (the limits) of Subh Sadiq (true dawn) and sunrise. It is not their intention to state that in every season and at every location the same (set) time difference is present because it is categorically incorrect.

Further states:

It was their intention that if the maximum time difference in a particular location and at a particular date is taken (as a yard stick) and applied to other locations (within the country) then the fast will be valid. Some of them have stipulated a certain percentage of the night to be Subh Sadiq (true dawn) and its reality is also similar to what we have described (Ahsanul-Fatawa Vol 2/Page 183)

Similarly Shaykh (Mufti) Ahmed Khanpuri (HA) has also prohibited the use of 1/7th rule for non-temperate climates and he (HA) writes:

The rule of 1/7th and the last part being the time difference between Subh Sadiq (true dawn) and sunrise is an estimation. Similar is the estimation of a set time period (of 90 minutes or more or less) and then he has fully recorded the response of Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) in its entirety. (Mahmoodul-Fatawa Vol1/Page 410)

In summary, there is no authenticity in declaring the last 7th part of the night as Subh Sadiq (true dawn) and it is against logic and transmission. The light of Subh Sadiq (true dawn) spreads much before the last 7th of the night therefore acting on this 1/7th (determination) should be avoided.

Allah (SWT) knows best and unto Him we Surrender

Compiled by (Maulana) Yusuf Shabbir Ahmed (HA)

Servant of Hadeeth at Darul-uloom Ta’leemul-Islam

Masjid Jamia Blackburn (UK)

25th of Rabiut-Thani (1436) equivalent to 14th of February 2015

This is correct!

Will fasting for 12 hours or following the fasting times of Saudi Arabia suffice for Muslims in the UK

Mufti Yusuf Shabbir (DB)

Fasting during the month of Ramaḍān is one of the five pillars of Islam. The timing of fasting is fixed between Ṣubḥ al-Ṣādiq (true dawn) and sunset based on the location of the individual. This is clearly evident from the verse of the Qurʾān (2: 187) wherein Almighty Allah says, “And eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete the fast till the nightfall.” The words “appears to you” explicitly affirm that the timing of the fasting is based on the location of the individual, irrespective of whether the day is long or short. This is no different to the timings of Ṣalāh. There may be a legitimate difference of opinion regarding the precise time of true dawn and what constitutes Subḥ Ṣādiq in astronomical terms but there is no legitimate difference of opinion regarding the principle of fasting during the day from true dawn to sunset.

The companion Sahl ibn Saʿd (d. 91/709-10) (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The verse “And eat and drink until the white thread appears to you distinct from the black thread” was revealed, and the words “of dawn” were not revealed. Thus, when people wanted to fast, one of them would tie a white thread and a black thread to his foot. Then he would continue to eat until he could differentiate between them when he looked at them. Thereafter, Allah revealed the words, “of dawn”. They then realised that the verse referred to night and day. 1 Similarly, ʿAdī ibn Ḥātim (d. after 60/679) (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates that when the verse “Until the white thread of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread” was revealed, I took a black rope and a white rope and put them beneath my pillow, and I started to look at them during the night, but I could not see any distinction between them. The next morning I went to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and informed him about this. He said, “Rather that is the blackness of the night and the whiteness of the day”2 These narrations affirm that the timing of fast is between true dawn and sunset, based on the location of the individual.

Similarly, Almighty Allah says in the same verse, “It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of the fasts.” This part of the verse explicitly affirms that that the timing of the fast is the full day from true dawn to sunset. Adopting a twelve hour fast or following the fasting times of Saudi Arabia directly contradicts this verse.

The unanimous position of the various schools of thought is that fast begins at true dawn and ends at sunset. This has been mentioned by all the jurists in the books of jurisprudence. Many scholars have cited consensus on this. 3 There is no difference of opinion among mainstream scholars regarding this. Isolated views on this matter appearing from so called scholars advocating a twelve hour fast or following the times of Saudi Arabia must be disregarded and will not affect the Ijmāʿ (consensus) of the Ummah. Such attempts to distort the fundamental tenants of Islam and deviate Muslims in the guise of modernisation and reformation are illusory and a continuation of the attempts that have occurred from the time of the Prophet ﷺ in different forms. The Prophet ﷺ warned us from such people when he said, “Towards the end of the time, there will be ‘dajjāls’ liars. They will relate to you sayings, which neither you nor your forefathers have heard. Beware of them lest they misguide you and cause you tribulations.”4 The famous Ḥanbalī scholar and minister, Imam Ibn Hubayrah (d. 560/1165) writes in the commentary of this narration, “The jurisprudence of this narration includes a severe prohibition on innovations, a strong warning against innovators, and encouragement to follow [the Sunnah]. This warns a person that he should in all matters only follow that person who he trusts to have sound views and who adheres to the Sunnah.” 5 The famous Ḥanafī scholar Mullā ʿAlī al-Qārī (d. 1014/1605) narrates that the narration refers to a group of individuals who will claim that they are scholars and saints qualified to speak on matters of faith. However, they will narrate fabricated narrations, innovate unfounded rulings and corrupt beliefs.6

It is worth noting that Muslims have been residing in the UK for many decades and have managed to fast during the summer period. Over the centuries, Muslims have resided in areas that share a similar latitude to the UK. An example of this is Bulgār (Kazan, Russia) regarding which jurists mention that dawn appears before the disappearance of the Shafaq in the summer months and thereby the time of ʿIshāʾ Ṣalāh does not occur. 7 This is similar to the UK. The famous traveller Ibn Baṭūtah (n.d.) visited Bulgār in or around the year 732/1332, in which the beginning of Ramaḍān fell on 27 May. 8 He writes, “I had heard of the city of Bulgār and desired to visit it, in order to see for myself what they tell of the extreme shortness of the night there and also the shortness of the day in the opposite season. It was ten night’s journey from the sultan’s camp, so I requested that he would give me a guide to take me to it and he did so. We reached it in the month of Ramaḍān. When we performed Magrib Ṣalāh, we had Ifṭār, and the call for the ʿIshāʾ Ṣalāh was made during our Ifṭār. We performed [ʿIshāʾ] Ṣalah and Tarāwīḥ and Witr Ṣalāh and dawn appeared thereafter. Similarly, the days are short in the winter season. I stayed there for three days.”9  This account clearly indicates that the Muslims in Bulgār fasted until sunset. Moreover, the jurists who have discussed the issue of ʿIshāʾ Ṣalāh in Bulgār have not mentioned an alternative time or formula for fasting. This is because Ṣubḥ Ṣādiq (true dawn) occurs in Bulgar just as it occurs in the UK throughout the year. The persistence of twilight at night in the summer months does not mean that Ṣubḥ Ṣādiq does not occur. This should not be confused with those lands in which the sun does not set during the summer and does not rise during the winter, or in which the day lasts for six months and the night lasts for six months. In such places, they will follow the closest country where the sun rises and sets within a 24 hour period.

Islam is a religion of ease and does not over burden anyone. Almighty Allah says, “Allah does not burden a soul beyond that it can bear.”10  Accordingly, if someone is unable to fast during the summer months due to a justifiable reason such as elderly age or ill health, the Sharīʿah has prescribed alternative solutions for such people depending on their circumstance. If they are able to fast in the winter months, they will be required to undertake Qaḍāʾ of their fasts. If they are unable to fast at all, they will compensate via Fidyah as outlined in the Qurʾān. 11  If indeed it was possible to undertake a short fast, permission would have been granted for the ill and elderly to do so. The fact that the Qurʾān mentions an alternative demonstrates that the time of the fast is fixed and cannot be altered.

In conclusion, fasting for twelve hours in the summer months in the UK or following the fasting times of Saudi Arabia is impermissible and contravenes the teachings of the Qurʾān and Sunnah and disregards the consensus of the scholars and the practice of the Ummah. The obligation will only be fulfilled by fasting from Ṣubḥ Ṣādiq (true dawn) to sunset.

Allah knows best

Yusuf Shabbir

29 Shaʾbān 1437 / 5 June 2016


جزاك اللهُ خيرًا

  1. Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī (1917)
  2. Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī (1916).
  3. Sunan al-Tirmidhī (705); Sharḥ Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī Li Ibn Baṭṭāl (4: 102); Marātib al-Ijmāʿ (1: 39); al-Iqnāʿ Fī Masāʾil al-Ijmāʿ (1: 226); al-Majmūʿ (3: 45).
  4.  Muqaddamah Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim (7); Musnad Aḥmad (8596)
  5. Al-Ifṣāḥ ʿAn Maʿānī al-Ṣiḥāḥ (8: 195).
  6. Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (1: 239).
  7. Ḥāshiyah al-Shilbī (1: 81); al-Nahr al-Fāʾiq (1: 161); Ḥāshiyah al-Ṭaḥṭāwī ʿAlā Marāqī al-Falāḥ (1: 178); Radd al-Muḥtār (1: 362).
  8. Some historians question Ibn Baṭuṭah’s visit to Bulgār whilst others suggest an error in the order of events or in the number of days of travel. This is because the distance between Bulgār and the Sultan’s palace is 1300 km making it impossible to cover this distance in 10 days (see al-Falaq Idha Lam Yagib al-Shafaq, unpublished, p. 19).
  9.  Riḥlah Ibn Baṭūṭah (2: 236).
  10.  Al-Qurʾān al-Karīm (2: 286).
  11.  Al-Qurʾān al-Karīm (2: 183).